On March 8, 2019 I spoke with Mandy Connell for over half an hour on her show. Click here for the recording (fast forward to the 35-minute mark).

Here are some of my favorite quotes from the interview:

Mandy asked how being on a capital jury has affected my faith.

“Things that I used to think were life and death issues are no longer life and death issues to me because I’ve actually had to make a life and death decision. What if God were up there watching this (the trial)? He’d be like, ‘So how is it, Carl, trying to do my job? You were so sure of who I am and what my will is and what’s sin and not sin.’ This is why I wrote the book. When I had to make that kind of decision, it really changed my perspective on so many things that I used to think were critical that I now have a lot more grace about than I did before.”

Mandy asked what it is like to deliberate on a life-or-death decision.

“The deliberations were hard. They were what you probably imagine they would be. They were at times emotional. At times we would kind of lash out at each other. At times we would just sit there not knowing what to do. At times people expressed a lot of fear about what’s going to happen next. It’s a very lonely thing because we’re shut in the jury room. We don’t have any phones, we aren’t allowed to communicate with the outside world. And yet we have to make this huge decision knowing that whatever we decide and no matter how carefully we decide it, half the people are going to be angry with us. Some people are going to hate us. Ten years later they still do. I still have people say I’m barbaric and racist because I made this decision. We still deal with the fallout even a decade later.”